|
Investorville
![]() A
![]() Apple Computer (AAPL) (Page 3)
|
| This topic is 7 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 | next newest topic | next oldest topic |
| Author | Topic: Apple Computer (AAPL) |
|
mojo |
> "one-third of iMac buyers are first-time computer owners. That suggests a future of ever-expanding sales as new Mac-addicts upgrade and first-timers take the plunge." To me that suggests that iMac buyers are people who don't know any better and buy one or two Apples before moving on to Windows PCs. Apple is like AOL... they lure beginners with fancy colors and training wheels, but quickly lose them to the competition. |
|
newsman |
Worth magazine ranked Steve Jobs #6 on its top CEOs list. Here's what they said: "While most of the tech world was whipping its horses in pursuit of the next new thing, Jobs got Apple back in the hunt (and moved himself up from fifteenth on last year's list) by focusing on the first new thing: the first computer on every new buyer's desk. Apple's breakthrough iMac drew a lot of attention for its candy-colored casing, but the real triumph was the machine's success in capturing 18-to-24-year-olds while they're forming their lifelong brand preferences. Jobs, who has always believed that consumers, not businesses, are the most important market for computers, loves to point out that one-third of iMac buyers are first-time computer owners. That suggests a future of ever-expanding sales as new Mac-addicts upgrade and first-timers take the plunge. HIDDEN STRENGTH: Yes, Jobs is one helluva product design guy. But he also gets high marks for his stewardship of Apple's finances. He has done the dirty, vital work of cutting costs and rewarded shareholders with a more than 650 percent increase in Apple's market value, to $17 billion. Jobs is also doing all right in his other gig, CEO of Pixar. Toy Story 2 became the studio's third consecutive smash, grossing more than $241 million since its debut last Thanksgiving. BUSINESS PHILOSOPHY: Don't try to start the next revolution, just crank out smart, affordable consumer products, like wireless communications and networking add-ons for the new iBook laptop. Jobs really did change the world back in the 1980s when he introduced the Macintosh, "the computer for the rest of us." To persist in that vision, and not go off in search of the next big thing, shows admirable restraint. TIME MANAGEMENT TIP: Avoid ground transportation. Jobs covers the 57 miles between Pixar, in Richmond, California, and Apple, in Cupertino, by helicopter. MANAGEMENT STYLE: It only looks casual. Jobs still makes shareholder presentations in running shoes and sports shirts, but he keeps his eye on every decision. PERSONAL STRENGTHS: Passion, persuasiveness, and charisma (the notorious Jobs "reality distortion field"). WEAKNESS: "He's a better creative force than a manager," says an unnamed Pixar employee. FINANCIAL REWARD: His Apple salary is $1 a year, but the board of directors recently awarded him a $40 million Gulfstream V jet and options to buy 10 million Apple shares worth about $1.2 billion. The jet was especially useful in his never-ending quest to one-up best pal Larry Ellison, another avid collector of zillionaire toys. His 65 percent stake in Pixar is worth about $1 billion." |
|
InvestorGuide Weekly Administrator |
As reported in last week's InvestorGuide Weekly Apple is doing well. The company beat earnings estimates by 7 cents per share. (source: Wired) http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,35793,00.html |
|
KeithG |
Here's a pretty happy review of Apple's shareholder meeting. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-1726410.html?tag=st.ne.1002.bgif.1003-200-1726410 |
|
bobcobb |
I was barely right, but I was right. They passed the whispers and announced a stock split. Sales jumped 27%. Gross margins in the second quarter were 28%, a jump of 26% from the year-ago quarter. The increase was due to lower freight costs and lower DRAM pricing. The numbers sound good to me |
|
Earnings Administrator |
Company Name (Ticker): reported, expected, same q last year Apple Computer (AAPL): $0.88, $0.80, $0.60 |
|
bobcobb |
Apple whisper numbers seem to agree with that report. Look for Apple to beat the whisper numbers of $0.87 per share. |
|
InvestorGuide Weekly Administrator |
What a difference a few years and some hindsight make! Three years ago, Apple Computer was, well, applesauce. Today, it's as American as apple pie. (source: Forbes) http://www.forbes.com/tool/html/00/apr/0414/feat.htm |
|
trentr |
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,34821,00.html Apple has a worldwide injuniction against Daewoo and eMachines for selling PCs that copy the iMac design. Just another sign that everything PCs learned, they learned from Macs. |
|
JHirsch |
techbull, you cited this quote "Steve Jobs is one of the all-time masters of illusion, and he has gotten the best of some very smart people." Its called being a leader... Jobs (and Apple) doesn't need Gates as much as Gates needs Jobs though. If it weren't for Apple the Microsoft trial might be over already. Plus, where do you think Microsoft got the idea for Windows? As much as some people don't like Macs, they do fill a few distinct niches in the computing market. |
|
MaxPower |
techbull, I agree with you 100%. But he certainly does deliver shareholder value. It seems like a paradox, because working with the company interests in mind is supposed to deliver value, not working with your own interests in mind. But however selfish or ruthless he may be, his track record speaks for itself with regards to the share prices of the company's he manipulates. |
|
techbull |
For the Steve Jobs fans out there, you might be interested in this tidbit, from the book High Stakes, No Prisoners: "Steve Jobs is one of the all-time masters of illusion, and he has gotten the best of some very smart people. For example, he used his controlling investment in Pixar to squeeze out the engineers who had spent a decade creating the technology. When Jobs took the company public in 1995, he made $1 billion, but some of the technical founders got almost nothing. Then he sold his own failing company, NeXT, to Apple for more than $400 million, on the grounds that its supposedly revolutionary technology represented Apple's salvation. A year later, when Jobs had become Apple's acting CEO, he announced that upon reflection he had changed his mind, and he flushed NeXT down the toilet - but he didn't give back the $400 million." The book includes several other examples of tricks Jobs pulled. The company's stock is strong again, and Jobs does deserve some of the credit, although Gates deserves more... Microsoft has kept Apple on life support all these years to mitigate antitrust scrutiny. The purpose of this post is to remind people that just because a stock is strong doesn't mean the CEO is "good". Would I rather have him on my side or on the other side? My side... but I don't trust him to align his interests with those of the company, as the NeXT incident underscores. |
|
trentr |
Here's a quote from Andy Neff, a Bear Stearns analyst, "We believe the big picture is that Apple has transitioned from fighting to survive to a growth company and that multiple engines are driving the growth, including hardware, software, 'beyond the box' services and international markets." More importantly, the new OSX is coming out soon, and it'll blow everyone away! Mark my words. People who have seen the demos are touting it already. They are becoming a real force to be reckoned with in the pc/internet access market I think. |
|
humanity |
I agree, Jobs deserves everything they've given him. It's kind of like NBA salaries. On the surface they seem obscene and totally unjustified, but when you look at how much money an actual superstar actually brings in, the salary seems like a bargain. Bring the same argument to Apple: the share price has moved from the low- to mid-teens level in mid-1997 up to today's level of $113 or so, and the market capitalization for the company has moved up from about $2 billion (today is has more than that in cash at the bank!) to just under $20 billion over the time period that Jobs has been back at the helm. So in a sense, they gave him a potential immediate profit of around $200 million (plus the Jet), and he was directly responsible for bringing in $18 billion. I think Jobs is getting the raw end of the deal here; Apple owes him some more money! |
|
gatsby |
Whoever doubts the true impact of an effective management or leader, just look to Steve Jobs. Whoever holds structure to be the end-all and be-all of success, I say again, look to Stever Jobs. Yes it's just one example, but his record sure reflects my theory - when he's in control, Apple excels. He deserves whatever they've given him and then some. My first priority whenever I think of investing in a company is to assess who's in control. You can have the greatest idea or business plan in the world, but if you don't have someone who can lead the company, you really don't have anything at all. |
| This topic is 7 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 All times are EST (US) | next newest topic | next oldest topic |
![]() |
|
Powered by: Ultimate Bulletin Board, Version 5.43
© Infopop Corporation (formerly Madrona Park, Inc.), 1998 - 2000.
Press ctrl-D to bookmark this page for future reference.
By using this site you agree to our Terms of Use.
Copyright 2001 InvestorGuide.com Inc.