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happyguy |
dude, It might be that AOL is counting anyone who uses Instant Messenger or its website as a user, and the author of the statement just took it out of context. I am pretty sure there are at least as many IM and AOL.com website users as there are plain old AOL access users. Maybe they meant 54% or people who are online have at one time used some AOL product. That I'd believe. Another thing... to turn the discussion international. The London Observer reported that AOL is in talks to buy out partner Bertelsmann's 50% stake in AOL Europe. |
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humanity |
dude, my feeling is that the 40% is WAY too high. First, we need to figure out how many people own a computer. And of that bunch, how many people can afford a connection to the Internet. Then, do we count someone who's been on just once at a library, and do we require owning an actual account? Once all schools are wired, then the number will start to shoot up, especially if we include everyone who CAN access the Internet. I would guess that 1 out of 10 is pretty accurate for right now. |
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dude |
> "54% of americans access the internet through AOL" Does anyone know what the number is or how to find out? AOL currently has 21 million members. Sometimes multiple people use the same account, so let's say the actual number of users is 25-30 million. There are currently 274,218,537 people in the U.S. (according to www.census.gov). That works out to about 1 in 10 people in the U.S. using AOL. Of course, not everyone in the U.S. is online. I'd say about 40% of the U.S. is regular internet users. So about 1 in 4 people in the U.S. who are online use AOL. |
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charlie1 |
to answer simplastic's question: "I'm still a little leary about investing in internet companies, even one as prominent as AOL" First i'd say to read the previous few weeks of discussion on this board and decide if you think AOL IS an internet company. I've never used the site you are talking about, but the previous posts on this board include some good articles (and discussion as I said) Also, I read this in an article but i think the # is a little high. |
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Mayor of Investorville Administrator |
simplastic posted this in another board. We have moved it here: I'm new to the world of internet investing. I have some blue chip stocks in a rather small portfolio which I'm hoping to expand upon. I'd like to gather some opinions regarding the future of AOL stock. I'm still a little leary about investing in internet companies, even one as prominent as AOL. I have found one link to another investment site which offered several articles about the aol merger and their opinoin of it's fate, and I was wondering if anyone can give me feedback about the quality of this site. I've included the link for this site below, and if anyone has the time to check it out I would GREATLY appreciate input from experienced on-line traders. |
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InvestorGuide Daily Administrator |
Lawyers filed a class-action lawsuit against America Online on behalf of 8 million of its customers, claiming its version 5.0 makes using another dialup account nearly impossible. http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/breaking/merc/docs/020811.htm |
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InvestorGuide Daily Administrator |
America Online took a stake in software developer Netcentives and will begin implementing a rewards program. It will also use Netcentives software to run an alliance with American Airlines. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-1537945.html |
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InvestorGuide Daily Administrator |
Time Warner and EMI merged their music businesses to form a joint venture which will control over 35% of recorded music in America. http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/breaking/merc/docs/082612.htm |
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InvestorGuide Weekly Administrator |
AOL and Gateway team up to provide DSL service to customers, but only in select areas, as they both refreshingly have decided not to downplay the seemingly universal difficulties with DSL installation. http://www.pcworld.com/pcwtoday/article/0,1510,14856,00.html |
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InvestorGuide Daily Administrator |
In an attempt to move its online service beyond the PC, AOL is set to launch interactive TV this summer. Also, AOL Latin America filed for an IPO, seeking to raise $575 million. |
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InvestorGuide Daily Administrator |
AOL beat earnings estimates and reported high growth. [url]http://www.corp.aol.com/earningspress.html? [/url] |
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InvestorGuide Daily Administrator |
America Online and Gateway announced a deal to sell high-speed Internet access services in the computer maker's retail stores. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1004-200-1526333.html |
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JHirsch |
To James Cramer I ask: The amazing growth that is already built into AOL's stock price has got to come some time doesn't it? Growth builds upon growth and if you don't grow a lot now your growth later will take longer to catch up to where you could have been. That's the thing I see most wrong with how much AOL paid for Time Warner. Here's another issue that not many people are bringing up... conflict of interest |
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MaxPower |
Sorry for the long quote, but it is an excerpt from James Cramer that I read today, who attempts to refute the "slowing growth" argument. What do you think about what he says? "I don't care about growth rates or arbitrage pressure. I don't have time to assess those negatives. They get in the way of good longs all of the time. They are the stuff that always blinds you from seeing the concept, from buying the winning concept. They are the stuff that will make these now naysaying analysts go from hold to buy for the next two years, each time taking the combination higher. Sure, a fast growth rate and a slow growth rate equal a less-than-fast growth rate. But how much does dominance cost these days? Two hundred billion? Four hundred billion? How many mergers make Disney look tiny and silly and left behind? How many mergers make you think that GE is now just another player, or that CBS could be left back again?...AOL can now say, 'We don't care. We have the best music and entertainment anyway. We have The Sopranos and we have Isaacson. We have that Man of the Year stuff and we have Nocera and Huey and Pearlstine and Parsons and the best business journalism and the round-the-world news thing. We own it all. And they aren't going anywhere 'cause they don't mind making some money, either.' So, analysts and bears and backwoods folk, make AOL cheaper for me. Take it down, reduce it to some price that allows us to get longer. Makes no matter to me. When people speak of core positions in our business, they speak in unison of GE and Microsoft and maybe a Wal-Mart or American Express. Soon they will speak of AOL. But not yet, please. Let me get my full position in. We want to make money from it, too." |
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smario |
charlie1, that's a really good point that I hadn't thought about. The recent debate on this board of what AOL actually is (and Internet or media company) after the merger to me isn't the point. The point is growth - will there be enough to sustain AOL's recent levels and perception of the stock, not the actual company. My feeling is that AOL has now become so big, and its growth rate potentially so slowed, that it will no longer be the stock people have come to know over the years. Growth rates are calculated on a percentage basis, so the bigger you get, the slower the growth rate. Whether you consider AOL to still be an Internet company or now just another media company doesn't change the fact that a flattening growth curve will probably bring the stock price to traditional fundamentals. |
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