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newsman
posted 04-27-2000 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for newsman      Reply w/Quote
Worth magazine ranked Jeff Bezos #50 on its list of top CEOs. Here's what they said:

"Jeff Bezos has the distinction of bottoming out our list two years running, because we're still not sure if he can turn a great market cap into a great company. It was never supposed to be just a bookstore, Bezos insists, now that Amazon.com has mushroomed from a sharply focused purveyor of books, videos, and music into the world's biggest strip mall. Besides investing in Drugstore.com and HomeGrocer.com on last year's spending spree, Bezos launched "zShops," which allows anyone to rent space on Amazon to sell, basically, anything. So far, Bezos has shown he can expand at a gallop while maintaining his all- important customer service. Biggest challenge: The company gets 15,000 resumes a month, but analysts have serious doubts about whether Amazon can find enough imaginative, Internet-savvy executives to keep up with its growth. MANAGEMENT STYLE: "The only fatal flaw on the Web is being too slow," is the Amazon motto. "His acquisition of our company was unbelievably fast and furious," says Daniel Shrader, founder of Accept.com and now an Amazon vice-president. "He identifies a need and goes full-blast to fill it." TRUE STORY: After turning down Amazon's offer, operations whiz Joe Galli flew to New York to look at another company. Bezos followed, camped out in a hotel, and pursued Galli relentlessly until he agreed to come on board as president. "What sold me was the brainstorming," says Galli. "Every time I said no, we'd get involved in an all-night conversation about new ideas." CORPORATE GOAL: "Trying to become Earth's most customer-centric company." PASSION: Legos. "He has these huge Lego towers in his house," says a still-amazed Galli. "It's like being in a toy store." Financial REWARD: Worth over $7 billion."

Earnings
Administrator
posted 04-26-2000 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Earnings      Reply w/Quote
Company (ticker): reported, expected, same q last year
Amazon.com (AMZN): -$0.36, -$0.36, -$0.12

heister
posted 04-25-2000 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heister      Reply w/Quote
terrific,
did you read the WSJ journal article yesterday morning about Jeff Bezos?
It sounds like you did, or maybe you came up with almost the exact same conclusions as the author.
It was a good article, and your post was good too. The article offered one possible avenue for Amazon, just buy up all the little online stores and eliminate most of the competition.

InvestorGuide Weekly
Administrator
posted 04-24-2000 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InvestorGuide Weekly      Reply w/Quote
Business Week looks at Amazon.com's chances of survival as many of its smaller competitors are winding up in the e-commerce graveyard. http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/apr2000/sw00421.htm

terrific
posted 04-24-2000 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for terrific      Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by anonymoose:
Is it possible that the recent downturn in the etailing sector could be a good thing for Amazon? After all, the lower-tier players are becoming cheap if Amazon wants to acquire them, and bricks and mortar companies are much less likely to push hard on online projects, giving Amazon an even bigger head start.

Interesting thought. I would say it's probably good for Amazon for the reasons you gave (and also because VCs have basically stopped funding etailing startups); but it's bad in that part of Amazon's business model was to act as a sort of mall for other etailers willing to spend big bucks (or big shares) for prominent placement, but now those startups don't have big bucks and their shares are nearly worthless.

anonymoose
unregistered
posted 04-24-2000 12:52 PM            Reply w/Quote
JHirsch, CEOs always say they don't watch the stock prices. While it's true that they don't have control over them, they really should pay attention to them, for the reason that you gave - if the stock price falls, it makes stock-based acquisitions more expensive.

On another note... is it possible that the recent downturn in the etailing sector could be a good thing for Amazon? After all, the lower-tier players are becoming cheap if Amazon wants to acquire them, and bricks and mortar companies are much less likely to push hard on online projects, giving Amazon an even bigger head start.

JHirsch
posted 04-21-2000 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JHirsch      Reply w/Quote
"Bezos and Drugstore.com CEO Peter Neupert, seated next to him during the interview, said they do not spend much time thinking about their stock prices."
First, I'm not sure if I believe it, but if it is true, isn't it a mistake? Their stock is the currency with which they make acquisitions. Not being able to do much is one thing, but not caring is a bit cavalier.

InvestorGuide Daily
Administrator
posted 04-17-2000 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InvestorGuide Daily      Reply w/Quote
In brief:

- Amazon.com is expected to announce tommorow that it is acquiring an equity stake in Wineshopper.com, a new internet-based wine seller, sources familiar with the deal say.

InvestorGuide Weekly
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posted 04-17-2000 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for InvestorGuide Weekly      Reply w/Quote
Amazon's share price has fallen hard and fast, but that doesn't mean investors and analysts don't think it will survive the shakeout. (source: MSNBC)
http://www.msnbc.com/news/394638.asp

newsman
posted 04-10-2000 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for newsman      Reply w/Quote
From an article in Upside:

"Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN)
Rating: Strong Sell

Amazon.com, the acknowledged leader in online retailing, has never been profitable. It has brilliantly convinced most investors to remain patient with its ever rolling river of red ink. In the beginning, Amazon's management claimed that the massive investments required to build a brand would create barriers to entry, so it should be excused from the need for profitability. But other companies have run over that vaunted barrier as if it were a white picket fence. The rapid success of companies such as buy.com (BUYX) (which spent very little on marketing and grew sales to $125.3 million in one year) has proven that large marketing expenditures on the Web are not necessary.

Right before Wall Street completely lost its patience with the company, Amazon.com came up with another pie-in-the-sky strategy to keep Wall Street's allegiance. It has established several equity/marketing partnerships with online retailers such as Drugstore.com (DSCM), living.com, pets.com (IPET), Ashford.com (ASFD), and Greenlight.com. In these deals, Amazon.com makes a cash investment in the retailer and the retailer then turns around and uses that cash to purchase advertising. Many bulls on Wall Street believe that these agreements will be highly profitable and have raised their estimates on Amazon.com as a result.

They are overlooking something watermelon-big, though. No one is sure if these marketing agreements will be profitable for the ones that matter, namely, Drugstore.com and the other partners. For instance, in the fourth quarter of 1999, Drugstore.com spent $25 million on advertising to acquire 267,000 customers. This translates into a cost of $94 per customer, and each customer spent only $27 at Drugstore.com. That means that each customer has to multiply his or her average purchases by at least 3.5 to give the company just a 1:1 return in revenue, let alone gross margin or operating income.

We do not think these marketing agreements will be profitable for the other retailers either, and therefore the income stream will disappear. Thus, the equity value in the investments will not be as high as it is today. Investors will be left with a profitless retailer selling at 14 times sales. We recommend shorting the stock."

newsman
posted 04-04-2000 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for newsman      Reply w/Quote
From Motley Fool:
"Amazon.com, online purveyor of books and every other thing, may spin off its fixed assets. According to the Financial Times, Jeff Bezos, Amazon's chief executive officer, suggested that the company could leave management of its distribution centers to partner companies so that Amazon may be free to focus on its brand. Bezos, speaking at a Goldman Sachs e-tailing conference in Las Vegas, said that such a strategy could make Amazon "the Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO - news) of the Web."

Hmmm. Seems like just last year that Amazon built for the new millennium eight super-wonderful distribution centers, comprising approximately four million square feet of warehouse and distribution space. The point was to increase Amazon's control over the distribution process and facilitate its ability to deliver merchandise to customers on a reliable and timely basis.

These centers are highly automated. The two distribution centers Amazon operated prior to 1999 are manually operated. The company acknowledged in its 10-K that it was not previously experienced in operating automated warehouses in distant locations, and that problems could arise.

Apparently, though, those problems are a thing of the past. Bezos said, "Today, a huge competitive advantage for us is that we can do distribution centers purpose-built for e-commerce better than anybody else." Amazon is loath to share its skills with partners for the time being. "If you do that too soon, you may give up your competitive advantage," Bezos said.

OK, so Amazon is going to cement its position as leader in the "purpose-built e-commerce distribution center" space, and then spin it off. The point, as Bezos puts it, is that it's a "structural way of releasing value for shareholders."

It certainly is. Remove costs of fulfillment from your income statement, remove the fixed assets from your balance sheet, and you've got a much lighter business. Bezos invokes Coca-Cola in this context, since it does not manufacture cans and bottles, nor does it bottle or distribute its soda. It makes the syrup and sells it to bottlers, such as Coca-Cola Enterprises, some of which are independent, some partially owned, and others majority-owned by Coke. Coke itself, therefore, owns syrup manufacturing facilities and offices, but doesn't have to worry about bottling facilities, trucks, and all the other nastiness of a distribution business.

How would this work for Amazon? Presumably, the company would purchase inventory and send it to its distributors, who would warehouse and ship it as necessary. Inventory problems, then, would still fall on Amazon's shoulders. Amazon realized lower shipping margins in 1999 because of split shipments from one or more locations, which was caused by its failure to optimize inventory at its distribution centers. Issues like that would still cost Amazon, not its distributors.

Amazon would also have to consider how its devotion to customer satisfaction might suffer from separate distribution entities. Another cause of lower shipping margins last year was an increase in partial shipments to satisfy holiday demand. A distribution company may well not appreciate the costs (often in excess of revenue) of that sort of service. Amazon would probably still be responsible for those costs, too.

Bezos' desire for Amazon to become totally about its e-commerce platform is understandable. That's its greatest asset. The company's zShops initiative seeks to leverage its site traffic without incurring the costs of retailing. While a separate distribution company would mean fewer headaches for Amazon's management, the company would have to pay someone enough to assume those headaches. With little real cost benefit, spinning off its fixed assets should prove a problematic proposition for achieving profitability."

InvestorGuide Weekly
Administrator
posted 04-03-2000 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InvestorGuide Weekly      Reply w/Quote
The Federal Trade Commission is investigating the data collection practices of internet powerhouses Amazon.com and Yahoo. It seems that Doubleclick was just the first of many big internet names to come under fire. (source: Ecommerce Times)
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/news/articles2000/000331-3.shtml

InvestorGuide Daily
Administrator
posted 03-31-2000 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InvestorGuide Daily      Reply w/Quote
In brief:
- The FTC is conducting an inquiry into some of the consumer information practices of Amazon.com and Yahoo to determine whether the companies complies with consumer protection laws.

mojo
posted 03-29-2000 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mojo      Reply w/Quote
> How do we really know anything about the dot-coms or tech companies like Microstrategy until there are some kind of accounting rules that must be more strictly followed. A lot of companies and investors will be in for a rude awakening.
There are really two separate cases - one in which the company properly discloses its rule-stretching accounting practices and leaves it up to investors to find it hidden in its SEC filings, and another in which the company does not properly disclose its rule-stretching accounting practices. In the former case, smart investors will do their diligence and dig up the tricks. In the latter case, there's not much that investors can do except invest only in companies they trust.

netinvestor
posted 03-28-2000 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for netinvestor      Reply w/Quote
This discussion raises an important question...
How do we really know anything about the dot-coms or tech companies like Microstrategy until there are some kind of accounting rules that must be more strictly followed. A lot of companies and investors will be in for a rude awakening.

quote:
Originally posted by trendy:
Very interesting. A lot of Amazon investors believe that as soon as Amazon wants to it could be profitable simply by cutting back on its marketing expenses. Order fulfillment is probably not one of those "marketing expenses" that they can easily do away with

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