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Judg |
Very thought-provoking! I must confess, these questions have floated through my mind on occasion but I haven't yet tried to formalize any conclusions. Sort of like pornography, "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it!" The question is further complicated by the fact that it is futures trading I am interested in rather than stock trading. On one hand, it is a zero-sum game, with transaction fees effectively tipping the odds against the participant. I am still reluctant to label it gambling. On the other hand, I don't have to worry about what unsavoury activities wheat has been involved in in Third World countries or secluded manors in England, something that definitely comes up when considering buying Shell or Philip Morris. Which is not strictly speaking a gambling issue, but a morality one and therefore related. All in all, a most stimulating article! Thanks! |
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terrific |
I agree with the basic definitions for gambling and investing that the Tomments arrives at. One small thing I'd add that wasn't mentioned - in distinguishing characteristic #1 (investing is good, gambling is bad)... investing has its ugly side too, just like gambling. The SEC is always busy tracking down a variety of violations that tend to separate investors from their hard-earned money, especially securities fraud and insider trading. But on the whole, I basically agree with the line of reasoning he provided. |
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lockin |
I agree with everything KeithG said except "some people benefit from the perception of 'investor' without deserving it". I think the people who believe they're investing when they're actually gambling are the people hurt most by the confusing terminology. |
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KeithG |
Once again, Tom, some interesting observations of the investing world. I'll have to think more, but one of the things that really struck me was the idea that professional gamblers actually investing through the betting process. I think that gambling and investing have been defined in my mind by the mechanisms--things you do in a casino are gambling while buying stocks, options, etc. is investing. But that is a lousy way to define the terms. It seems pretty clear after reading you argument that day-trading is really like gambling--I also think that the chemical reactions are probably similar. And, really well-versed sports gamblers are really investing--doing research, knowing that they're not going to win every bet but looking at it lobg-term. It seems that trying to find the characteristics of each activity is of far more value than using the mechanisms. I guess that some people are bearing the stigma of "Gambler" unfairly while some people benefit from the perception of "investor" without deserving it. Good work. |
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Tom Murcko Administrator |
"It is generally agreed that casinos should, in the public interest, be inaccessible and expensive. And perhaps the same is true of stock exchanges." - John Maynard Keynes What is the difference between gambling and investing? In order to differentiate between the two, we should start by defining them. Comparisons are often made between the two activities, but I've never seen the terms explicitly defined. If you're sufficiently motivated, I encourage you to try to define the terms 'gambling' and 'investing' before you continue reading this essay... you may surprise yourself. (Go ahead, I'll wait here for you.) What definitions did you come up with? Are investing and gambling mutually exclusive, or is there an area of overlap? And are the boundaries clearly delineated, or is there a gray area in the middle? Let's see what the dictionary says. Here's what the Random House dictionary on my bookshelf says: BEYOND THE DICTIONARY OK, so the dictionary definitions aren't very useful. Perhaps if we examine some of the ways in which gambling and investing are generally perceived to differ, we might be able to build definitions from those characteristics. 1. Distinguishing characteristic: Investing is a good thing, gambling is a bad thing. 2. Distinguishing characteristic: In investing, the odds are in your favor; in gambling, the odds are against you. 3. Distinguishing characteristic: Gambling can be addictive and destructive, but investing can't. 4. Distinguishing characteristic: Gambling is entertainment, investing is business. 5. Distinguishing characteristic: Investing is saving for specific goals, such as retirement, while gambling isn't. 6. Distinguishing characteristic: Investors are risk-averse, while gamblers are risk-seekers. 7. Distinguishing characteristic: Investing is a continuous process; gambling is an immediate event or series of events. 8. Distinguishing characteristic: Investing is the ownership of something tangible; gambling isn't. 9. Distinguishing characteristic: Investing is based on skill and requires the use of a system based on research, while gambling is based on luck and emotions. While investing and gambling probably initially appear to be worlds apart, the above attempts at differentiation revealed that the actual differences are smaller than the perceived differences, and that there is a significant gray area in the middle. Based on the above characterizations, it is clear that the appropriate classification isn't wholly dependent on the activity, but also on the way in which the activity is conducted. There's a big difference between buying a stock after thoroughly researching it and buying a stock by hitting it on a dartboard. This is true even if the same stock happens to be chosen. Similarly, there's a big difference between buying exotic derivatives to hedge against an existing risk or position and buying the same derivatives because you saw a web site touting them. As a final example, there's a big difference between buying a government bond in order to collect the interest it earns and buying the same bond in the belief that interest rates are about to drop and the bond's value will skyrocket. One interesting thing to note is the pattern of exceptions to the attempted characterizations. Most of the exceptions were people who were doing investing-related things but weren't behaving like investors, or people who were doing gambling-related things but weren't behaving like gamblers. Of the four groups, recreational investors, professional investors, recreational gamblers, professional gamblers, there are more similarities between the two recreational groups and between the two professional groups than between the two investing groups and between the two gambling groups. Specifically, those who use a rigorous system, do research, tilt the odds in their favor, treat it as a business rather than as entertainment, avoid addiction, and keep their emotions in check tend to behaving like investors, and those who don't tend to be behaving like gamblers. It might not be such a stretch to call professional gamblers 'investors' and recreational investors 'gamblers'. A THIRD OPTION: SPECULATING Another possibility is that the two terms 'gambling' and 'investing' aren't sufficient to cover the entire range of activities under consideration. A third term, 'speculating', is often used to straddle the two, specifically to handle activities that would ordinarily be considered investing but are done in a way that make them feel more like gambling. In "The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money", John Maynard Keynes defined speculation as "the activity of forecasting the psychology of the market", and speculative motive as "the object of securing profit from knowing better than the market with the future will bring." Many people consider billionaire George Soros to be an investor, but he prefers the term speculator. In fact, he has said that "an investment is a speculation that has gone wrong." What he means by this is that, among speculators, an 'investment' is the name they give to a speculation that didn't work out the way they expected and that left them stuck with a position they hope will improve with time. Soros and other speculators make their predictions partially based on market psychology, and in this respect their behavior fits perfectly with the Keynes' definition of speculation. But there is much more to speculating than just interpreting market psychology, and this definition isn't sufficiently distinct from the ones we formulated for gambling and investing in the above section. According to the dictionary on my bookshelf, speculation is "the engagement in business transactions involving considerable risk for the chance of large gains." By this definition, the entire distinction rests on the degree of risk and size of potential gains. In support of this definition, bond rating agencies commonly use the term "speculative" to refer to high-risk bonds (those rated below BBB by S&P or Baa by Moody's). In their book "Investments", Zvi Bodie, Alex Kane, and Alan Marcus argue that "a gamble is the assumption of risk for no purpose but enjoyment of the risk itself, whereas speculation is undertaken in spite of the risk involved because one perceives a favorable risk-return trade-off." But this is too simplistic... no one would play casino games if the only possible outcomes were either breaking even or losing; the rush they experience comes from the possibility of winning and not merely from the taking of risk. They continue: "To turn a gamble into a speculative prospect requires an adequate risk premium for compensation to risk-averse investors for the risks that they bear. Hence risk aversion and speculation are not inconsistent." This part I agree with. In fact, whether they realize it or not, their definition reclassifies gambling as speculation when the odds can be sufficiently tipped in the player's favor, such as in professional blackjack or poker, which fits in nicely with argument made in the previous section. Zvi Bodie et al appear to be saying that in order to be speculating rather than gambling, the person must not take greater risks than are justified by the potential reward. Others say that in order to be speculating rather than investing the person must be taking greater risks than are justified by the potential reward. For example, in Benjamin Graham and David Dodd's classic "Security Analysis", they argue that "an investment operation is one which upon thorough analysis promises safety of principal and an adequate return. Operations not meeting these requirements are speculative." Both positions are defensible. But perhaps a better interpretation would rest on the realization that different investors have different tolerances for risk. Perhaps speculators are those who are risk-neutral, while gamblers are risk-seekers and investors are risk-averse. While adding the term 'speculation' to the mix might have some value, it probably adds more confusion than clarification, so I prefer to leave it out and focus on just 'gambling' and 'investing'. CONCLUSION So what's my resolution to this definition conundrum? Well, the purpose of words is to communicate concepts. So it doesn't really matter what definitions you use, as long as you and the person(s) you're communicating with are clear about what is meant by those words. And even more importantly, as long as you know what you're doing, investing or gambling, before you do it. But with that said, it would be beneficial if everyone could agree on what the terms mean, so we don't need to make our definitions explicit every time we want to use them. To this end, I offer the following definitions, which are built from the various characterizations in the above section: Investing - "Any activity in which money is put at risk for the purpose of making a profit, and which is characterized by some or most of the following (in approximately descending order of importance): sufficient research has been conducted; the odds are favorable; the behavior is risk-averse; a systematic approach is being taken; emotions such as greed and fear play no role; the activity is ongoing and done as part of a long-term plan; the activity is not motivated solely by entertainment or compulsion; ownership of something tangible is involved; a net positive economic effect results." Gambling - "Any activity in which money is put at risk for the purpose of making a profit, and which is characterized by some or most of the following (in approximately descending order of importance): little or no research has been conducted; the odds are unfavorable; the behavior is risk-seeking; an unsystematic approach is being taken; emotions such as greed and fear play a role; the activity is a discrete event or series of discrete events not done as part of a long-term plan; the activity is significantly motivated by entertainment or compulsion; ownership of something tangible is not involved; no net economic effect results." Speculating - I would prefer to avoid this term entirely, but if necessary I would define it as "Investing or gambling characterized by a high degree of risk and a high potential for reward." Are you disappointed that I didn't crystallize the essence of gambling and investing into a single distinguishing feature? Did I merely sidestep the ambiguity, and sweep the gray areas and the important exceptions under the rug? I don't think so. The taxonomy doesn't have to be completely distinct in order to be useful, nor does it need to be just a single feature. And just because some of the characterizations had exceptions doesn't mean they should be thrown out entirely. Nearly everyone agrees that the concept of 'chair' is a useful one, even though it's difficult to define exactly what the necessary and sufficient characteristics of a chair are. WHY DOES IT MATTER? You might be asking yourself, why does this matter? Isn't this all just semantics? The answer is no; there are important issues here that can be brought into focus by examining the two terms as this essay has done. I'll leave it to Benjamin Graham to further emphasize why such clarity is essential. In "The Intelligent Investor" he said: "The distinction between investment and speculation in common stocks has always been a useful one and its disappearance is a cause for concern. We have often said that Wall Street as an institution would be well advised to reinstate this distinction and to emphasize it in all dealings with the public. Otherwise the stock exchanges may some day be blamed for heavy speculative losses, which those who suffered them had not been properly warned against." He continues: "Outright speculation is neither illegal, immoral, nor (for most people) fattening to the pocketbook . . . There is intelligent speculation as there is intelligent investing. But there are many ways in which speculation may be unintelligent. Of these the foremost are: (1) speculating when you think you are investing; (2) speculating seriously instead of as a pastime, when you lack proper knowledge and skill for it; and (3) risking more money in speculation than you can afford to lose." I agree completely, and I suspect that his use of the term 'speculating' is very similar to this essay's use of the term 'gambling'. RELATED LINKS Blackjack FAQ http://www.eliteonlinegambling.com/c/faqbj.htm The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0156347113/ This essay has been archived at http://www.investorguide.com/tomments3.htm DISCLAIMER - This essay is not meant to condone gambling, or to suggest that you cash out your portfolio and become a professional blackjack or poker player. Those are tough ways to make money, and were mentioned primarily for illustrative purposes. Copyright 2000 by InvestorGuide.com. Please feel free to send this entire post to others who might be interested. Anyone who makes investment or other decisions based on what they read here does so at their own risk and cannot hold Tom Murcko or WebFinance Inc. (dba InvestorGuide.com) responsible. We are not responsible for errors or omissions. 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