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happyguy
posted 11-16-1999 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyguy      Reply w/Quote
I agree that it is a step in the right direction, but its a small step compared to what they need to do and should do to take advantage of their bricks and mortar locations.
As far as the lawsuit goes... i'd have to side with BN.com on this one. Amazon doesn't have a case.

humanity
posted 11-16-1999 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for humanity      Reply w/Quote
gatsby, I found this:
B&N.com CEO "Bulkeley dismissed the recent lawsuit Amazon filed against barnesandnoble.com for allegedly copying its patented '1-Click' shopping feature, which allows customers to shop without having to re-enter their billing or shipping information every time they buy. 'I'm flattered,' Bulkeley said. 'Looks like they're worried. It's a desperate attempt on their part.' He explained that several other sites offer similar features to make online shopping more user-friendly, and yet Amazon has chosen only to sue barnesandnoble.com. He called the lawsuit 'anti-Internet.'"

gatsby
posted 11-11-1999 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gatsby      Reply w/Quote
Looks like B&N.com is finally starting to take advantage of the relationship with their offline parent company. They are using the .com database to target customers by sending coupons to those with zip codes near newly opening Barnes & Noble stores or stores holding events such as book signings. "Far from cannibalizing Barnes & Noble stores, barnesandnoble.com 'market[s] customers back and forth' and 'serve[s] customers however they want to shop,' the B&N.com CEO says. The idea is to get customers to shop online and in the stores."

This is definitely a step in the right direction. Other things I am impressed by: 1. Though 45 out of the most recent 62 Internet IPOs were trading below their offering prices, B&N.com is one of the lucky 17.
2. So far it's the most successful website launched by a traditional, brick-and-mortar retailer.
3. It's the only one to make the list of top 30 websites.

By the way, any status report on the amazon '1-click' lawsuit?

happyguy
posted 10-22-1999 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyguy      Reply w/Quote
Amazon.com has filed suit against Barnesandnoble.com, alleging that the rival book and music e-tailer illegally copied Amazon's patented 1-Click technology. It seems kind of silly to me. In my opinion the one-click technology isn't all that special. I'm not a programmer, but unless they specifically stole the code from Amazon i don't think their case has any merits. It will be interesting to see how the patent laws bend and stretch in the new online world.

gatsby
posted 10-20-1999 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gatsby      Reply w/Quote
You know, I was in a B&N the other day, and whereas it really is a great excursion (between the books and the coffee), I found out that even their offline stores aren't wired together. They have no internal database to check if books are at other locations - though it works, they still have to call other stores. Unreal. They really just need to higher an IT Director, and wire everything together - it makes me wonder what old school technophobe is running things.

JHirsch
posted 10-19-1999 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JHirsch      Reply w/Quote
I agree with gatsby and humanity that this is a good idea for BN.com. One problem I see is if your local drugstore/bookstore doesn't have the drug/book you are need. Going along with that there would have to be a searchable database of each individual stores' inventory to see if the item were in stock at your local store. Figuring out how to solve that issue seems to be the biggest concern.
Jake

humanity
posted 10-19-1999 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for humanity      Reply w/Quote
To add to gatsby, et. al's strategy of BN.com and BN working together to utilize an offline/online presence - This is exactly what Drugstore.com and Rite Aid are trying to do, so it is a good little test group to see if it will work. As part of the Rite Aid agreement, customers can now order their drugs online at Drugstore.com and pick them up at any of Rite Aid's 3,800 stores, taking the two- to three-day shipping wait out of the picture for customers who need their prescriptions filled right away. In addition, Rite Aid agreed as part of the deal to promote Drugstore.com on shopping bags, receipts, and pharmacy packaging.

To me, this sounds like exactly what everyone here wants the two B&N's to do, and I think it will work.

newinvestor
posted 10-14-1999 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for newinvestor      Reply w/Quote
I keep hearing about how Barnes and Noble should leverage their brick and mortar stores. I've seen people post about it here, read it in articles. I read another account today.
It is from a Smart Money article

"But the biggest weapon that Barnesandnoble has that Amazon doesn't is one that it can't use to its fullest potential. Its mother corporation's 1,000 brick-and-mortar stores set it apart from Amazon and almost all other Net plays and could give it a big leg up -- if it could really use them. "
I hope the guys at BN.com are getting to it over there. It may be too late if they don't start making a move soon.

dude
posted 10-12-1999 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dude      Reply w/Quote
To get a critical mass of titles quickly, they should consider "reprinting" old books whose copyrights have expired and which are now public domain.

trentr
posted 10-11-1999 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trentr      Reply w/Quote
Here's the problem I see with ebooks.

“The technology suffers from a classic chicken-and-egg dilemma. Most publishers remain reluctant to adopt the new format in addition to existing hardcover, paperback and audio book formats until a larger market exists.“
There are only 1400 titles available at this time (plus 1000 free titles, but if they are free how good could they be?), compared to the millions of titles available in print. It will take a LONG time for this technology to catch on unless there are other ways to read it than an expensive ebook.

infooverload
posted 10-07-1999 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for infooverload      Reply w/Quote
Barnes and Noble.com's parent company jumped into the video game and entertainment software business by buying privately held Babbage's for $215 million in cash and assumed liabilities yesterday. This move will obviously remind everyone of Amazon's evolution. The deal is expected to be accretive to Barnes & Noble's earnings by $0.10 per diluted share for the fourth quarter. Alan Kahn, Barnes & Noble's chief operating officer, said that barnesandnoble.com will be able to leverage the acquisition. If Babbage's meets certain financial goals over the next two years, Barnes & Noble will pay an additional $10 million in 2001 and again in 2002.

So I guess indirectly (or eventually), b&n.com will benefit from this move, but who knows how long it will take. Maybe it shows that the offline company is starting to look more into how they can integrate themselves more with their online spinoff, a move everyone on this board seems to want.

JHirsch
posted 09-21-1999 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JHirsch      Reply w/Quote
I still also like gatsby's old idea. I wouldn't be too suprised if the fool who wrote this article you are talking about was reading the discussion here.
Another interesting thing that B&N.com is doing which intruiges me is the electronic book. I don't know if i'd ever read a computer screen in lieu of an actual book. I do it for newspapers and sometimes magazines, but only when its cheaper or more accessible. E-books must be more accessible to succeed but I don't know if it will be cheaper. $329 is a lot of money. In the future it seems feasible that palm pilot or other organizers will have storage space for things like this so that one can read. A device which is only useful for reading e-books does not seem as useful to me as a palm pilot which can also load and read books.
Jake

infooverload
posted 09-21-1999 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for infooverload      Reply w/Quote
gatsby, the Fool must have read your ideas about this company. Besides talking about what you were saying about utilizing their offline parent, they also put forth some good facts which show that B&N.com and its stock may survive and do very well:
1. Looking at current price, "it's safe to say that the shares are not overvalued."
2. "Barnes & Noble employees bought 4.5 million, or about 16%, of the shares sold in the IPO. Some executives and board members actually sold a small portion of their Barnes & Noble stock options to purchase stock in bn.com. Like insider selling, insider buying says a lot about the company. For one thing, it shows confidence on the part of management that bn.com will succeed. Leonard Reggio, chairman and CEO of Barnes & Noble and chairman of bn.com, bought 2.3 million shares, or 8%, putting $41.4 million where his mouth is."
3. "In July, bn.com had close to 4.8 million unique visitors, making it the fifth largest shopping website, according to market research firm Media Metrix."
4. "In the end, barnesandnoble.com could win the online book war as market leader Amazon turns its attention to other areas of e-commerce, such as auctions, toys, and online drug and grocery stores. Just as shoppers turned away from real-world department stores in the past in favor of specialty shops, book lovers could very well flock to bn.com in search of the ultimate book-shopping experience."

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posted 09-20-1999 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for InvestorGuide Weekly      Reply w/Quote
Barnes & Noble has begun selling NuvoMedia's handheld electronic book, betting that its bookstore customers will accept the alternative to printed books once they have a chance to see the device for themselves. http://www.pcworld.com/pcwtoday/article/0%2C1510%2C12816%2C00.html

newinvestor
posted 08-09-1999 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for newinvestor      Reply w/Quote
jhirsch and smario,
How about pairing Starbucks.com with BarnesandNoble.com? They do it with the brick and mortar stores in lots of places, and both of them want to generate traffic to their sites.
You could order your book and some coffee and have both waiting for you when you showed up to the store

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