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slurm |
Interesting. I don't know what techniques analysts use to predict the Fed's moves. I also don't know how accurate they are... perhaps one of the sites that's tackling stock picking accountability (see the current Tomments http://www.investorville.com/ubb/Forum39/HTML/000002.html) will also start to track predictions analysts make about interest rate changes, to see who's worth listening to. |
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wassup? |
Apparently Merril Lynch (I think it was them) in an analysis of the paper industry said they expect the Fed's rate hiking to be over in August. Of couse, they were concerned with how this would impact the paper industry, but I am curious how they make estimates of those sort of things. How to predict how the Fed will act. Moreover, who is to say how much the rates will be hiked by then? Isn't it a better indication if they predict how high the rates will be when the Fed is through? Interesting, though. |
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KeithG |
Interesting, gatsby. I never thought about a conference call impacting the Fed in such a manenr. Did you read an article somewhere that suggested the connection? I don't see why Wal-Mart's analysis would weigh more than the Fed's own analysis. As far as a 75-100 point hike, from what I have read about Greenspan, I think he is the kind of guy that doesn't want to be remembered as the destroyer of the boom. On the other hand, he doesn't want to be the man that let inflation take over. So, I guess what I am saying is, I seriously doubt we will see a 75 or 100 point hike at this meeting. You'll notice that the Fed hasn't really shocked anyone yet--they kept moving 25 points, and now, only after the news broke that a 50 point hike was discussed at the last meeting does a 50 point hike seem likely. the Fed doesn't want to cause a panic, so they let people prepare for what is coming. Maybe over the next week people will get prepared for more than 50 points, but I won't. Jumping from 25 to 75 is too abrupt. There is a lag involved with these hikes, and Greenie has been cautious not to move too far ahead. This doesn't seem like the time to jump the gun. |
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gatsby |
Apparently, Wal-Mart had a fabulous conference call during which they said they see no end in sight to the tremendous consumer spending. Apparently, this could be murder on the markets, as Greenspan could potentially use this call to hike the rates even more (maybe a 75 or 100 point increase). Is this paranoia? Or can one conference call really persuade the Fed in this way? |
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InvestorGuide Daily Administrator |
grant China permanent trade benefits. The pact also won an endorsement from Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan. (source: Washington Post) http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27416-2000May8.html |
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wassup? |
I need a refresher on my econ. courses. In response to uncleharley's last question, I see a 50 basis point hike. there was a lot of talk about it at the last Fed meeting. I think everyone is beginning to price that in, and it will be a pretty significant shock if they don't. As far as the budget surplus, isn't the strong economy causing the surplus--as people's incomes have increased, the amount they pay in taxes have increased. So, to argue that the gov't is taxing us to a point it can't spend the money, it might just be that people have been earning too much for the gov't to spend. So, I am not sure the surplus really tells us much about fiscal policy. |
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uncleharley |
Some people believe that rising labor costs are a part of inflation, rather than a cause. They even go so far as to say that inflation is caused by fiscal and monetary policy. If they are right, let's look at those two factors. Everyone knows that the Federal government as been running a budget surplus for the last couple years. This would seem to indicate that fiscal policy has been conservative and therefore created budget surplus's. That may be true or it is possible that we are simply being taxed to a point where the government can't spend all the money. If that is the case, then fiscal policy is loose rather than tight. Next let's look at monetary policy. Greenspan has been tightening the screws on the money supply, right??? Well, yes and no. The federal reserve pumped a ton of money into the system late last fall in case Y2K became a problem. Some people feel that liquidity is what is causing some indicators to flash inflation signals now. If that is true, then the Fed has to tighten things up a bit more. The question, of course, is how much. The consesus right now seems to be a 500 basis points increase in the discount rate. What is your opinion???? |
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InvestorGuide Daily Administrator |
The nation's jobless rate fell to 3.9 percent last month, the first time it has been below 4% since January 1970, and record lows were set for unemployment among Hispanics and blacks. The strong data is thought to increase the liklihood of a rate increase from the Fed. (source: Washington Post) http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12583-2000May5.html |
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shlem |
What is important is long term rate. When these rate will get to Keyne's Liquidity Trap we will anyway see that the market will go out of long term assets to liquid assets. GreenSpan have no control on long term interest rate only on short term and they are sometime inversely correlated as we will see after the raise next time. And no matter how prudent will be the banks they will have tons of bad debts.... That is how the bubble will burst. Still there is a life after the Burst: http://shlem.virtualave.net Regards, Shalom Patrick Hamou |
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Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan warned U.S. bankers not to be lulled into complacency in managing risk, especially with sophisticated financial tools such as derivatives. (source: CNN) http://www.cnnfn.com/2000/05/04/economy/greenspan/ U.S. worker productivity rose just 2.4% in the first three months of the year while wage costs showed surprising strength, the government said. (source: MSNBC) http://www.msnbc.com/p/cnbc/403347.asp |
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KeithG |
I'm just going to continue to talk to myself in here... I found an article/commentary that deals with the issues econguru brought up about productivity and inflation. It's long, but I thought very informative and very bullish. |
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The U.S. economy is surging ahead at a rapid clip, with a lack of available workers fueling pressure on companies to pay higher wages, the Federal Reserve said. Still, competition between businesses and rising productivity is thus far keeping inflation under wraps. (source: CNNfn) http://cnnfn.com/2000/05/03/economy/beigebook |
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InvestorGuide Daily Administrator |
The U.S. economy is surging ahead at a rapid clip, with a lack of available workers fueling pressure on companies to pay higher wages, the Federal Reserve said. Still, competition between businesses and rising productivity is thus far keeping inflation under wraps. (source: CNNfn) http://cnnfn.com/2000/05/03/economy/beigebook |
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KeithG |
Not a whole lot of Economy Watchers out there, huh? Well, I think today was the first step in preparing the markets for the inevitable. The strong words from the Fed suggest that they are trying to warn people of the half-pointer. The markets reacted in kind, with the Dow dropping heavily. The Nasdaq actually bounced back after the announcement, probably Dow investors heading into the "rate-immune" tech stocks. But, I think when the Fed does raise the rates .5, will see some buying. Sell on the rumor... |
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KeithG |
The rumors are beginning to fly once again about a .5 point increase from the Fed. There is some big economic data out at the end of the week that could push Greenie over the edge. Some members of the Fed were asking for a .5 hike last meeting. Investors are nervous, as today's low volume trading day shows, but why don't they just prepare for the worst? Unless these numbers are pretty quiet, I think the expectation SHOULD be a .5 hike, and if Alan shocks us with a .25, the markets can go up from there. |
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